in 2012 when the tea party was doing pretty well, mitt romney, a guy who passed health care in massachusetts got the nomination. >> i would just say if you look at ornstein's book and trace legislative patterns, electoral patterns, governing patterns, the right has swung further right than the left. >> moderate mitt. >> i actually agree with you alex, with all deference to the great grand journalist. i don't think the left, quote, unquote, left of the democratic party has never been as left as the right of the republican party and held the kind of deference and sway in the democratic party that the right has. this is the notion republicans have feared their base in that oh, no we better capitulate them. democrats fear their base as oh, no, we can't be seen associating with them. no one really strong wanted to jump in in 2012. i don't think that will be the cains 2016. is are the democrats holding sway? >> you were in monmouth county. >> when you're in new york where the journalists are you can take the train in five minutes and be in new jersey. we went to new jersey, a survivor story. i wen